Discussion:
dealing with the establishment
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Dale
2013-08-14 02:21:44 UTC
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those who have issues with the establishment have only 4 courses, and I
believe they should do them in order

1) politics (polite discourse, not schmoozing)
2) propaganda ( communication of the results of politics)
3) non-violent money costing funny business, like Obamacare and Dodd/Frank
4) suck it up, GO THERE and be a joker, and let the establishment learn
their lesson, eventually they will corrupt even what "they" like

the establishment will always control the violence

police have to follow the law, as "established"

so do other forceful established government

but the police can get furious when the establishment starts funny
business they have to take the heat for
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Dale
Kontac
2013-08-14 16:23:36 UTC
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Police are not in the job to amuse people. There sole purpose is to
lock lawbreakers in cells or shoot them dead is how they prefer it
and will not call an ambulance they leave you to expire where you
fell. Our police are ruthless assasins if you produce a firearm you
will be shot. If you get drunk and break shop windows with a golf
club even with a Delta Unit present you get shot and die cause you
presented a threat you didn't put down the golf club. They shoot for
body mass in the chest no trying to wing you. Blow you off your feet
style that's what they are trained to do.

If by some error you live they will pay witnesses to testify use your
friends to plant precursors intercept your communications without
warrents using cellular clones.

But the real scum they have to deal with year in year out hardens
them. So a few dirty tricks are a means to an end cept when your
dangling a teen heroin addict out the 7th floor window and his shoe
slips off and they drop him. He had a whole second to reflect before
impact.

The drunk young man took over 15min to die golf club at his side.

You see we are not allowed pistols in our country unless your God or
an Angel. We don't allow MSSAs cept on special licence (militry style
semi auto) they arn't allowed bayonet lugs flash supressors pistol
grip detachable stock high capacity mags must be sourced from within
the country import is banned. Owning a firearm is a priviledge
granted by the police and can be revoked without reason and your guns
destroyed without compeinsation.

They call this country Gods Own the natives call it Aotearoa (land of
the long white cloud) New Zealand.

The Police are only human two years ago a police sniper shot the
wrong person driving down the motorway in a similar van. What
happens? Nothing cause the Police investigate the Police no external
investigative authority verdict accidental death.

They do a mighty good job and inspite of our differences I respect
them.

My issue is with drug law which is UN and WHO and US lead. And
treating the mentally unwell as common criminals. Both addiction and
mental illness shouldn't be in the realm of the Justice system. WHO
lists addiction as a mental illness here you get a welfare cheque if
you go see a doctor and state your an addict.

Regardless of how you view drugs if you don't take them you view
those that do as mentally dysfunctional correct? And ask yourself,
Why do they do it? I use not abuse drugs. And for the life of me
can't understand other forms of lawbreaking as no reason justifies
the breaking of the law unless your mentally impared with
scitzophrenia which I suffer from and you do stupid things that get
you in trouble not epic crimes. Cause to me the only thing worth
stealing is drugs not someones personal property how low stealing a
laptop or phone the problems it causes the victim or a car often
causing them great hassle and often their greatest asset.

I must say our police respond to reported crime even if it's a car of
kids who haven't obeyed the sustained traction law and are burning
rubber police respond or a domestic which can turn MAF (male assults
female) best get there b4 it happens.

I can't believe in a force that doesn't respond cause they are over
taxed with serious crime. More police until the public have sufficent
faith not to buy a gun. Throwing guns in more homes doesn't fight
crime as well as trained officers. And our police don't carry guns
there maybe one in the gunsafe in the unit but there it stays unless
an Armed Offender alert goes to your unit.
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Dale
2013-08-15 04:26:02 UTC
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Post by Kontac
Our police are ruthless assasins
not all

but hawkish behavior can be learned in the military or even expected
there where many police come from

I still believe my original post spells out the solution

(I did read your whole post, this one kind of summed it up)
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Dale
Dale
2013-08-15 04:43:06 UTC
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Post by Dale
hawkish behavior
starts with jocks in grade school even

no insult to polite athletes

in mental health, in which I am, we are taught to be assertive not
aggressive (or passive, or passive/aggressive)

there are a lot of double standards around

assertiveness is really the best you can do without violence

this doesn't mean assertiveness leaves out defense

hawks ARE the problem, they think a good defense is a good offense
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Dale
Dale
2013-08-15 04:44:58 UTC
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Post by Dale
hawks ARE the problem, they think a good defense is a good offense
might be a human social evolution problem
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Dale
THE COLONEL
2013-08-15 15:57:41 UTC
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Post by Dale
those who have issues with the establishment have only 4 courses, and I
believe they should do them in order
1) politics (polite discourse, not schmoozing)
2) propaganda ( communication of the results of politics)
3) non-violent money costing funny business, like Obamacare and Dodd/Frank
4) suck it up, GO THERE and be a joker, and let the establishment learn
their lesson, eventually they will corrupt even what "they" like
the establishment will always control the violence
police have to follow the law, as "established"
so do other forceful established government
but the police can get furious when the establishment starts funny
business they have to take the heat for
--
Dale
Make the right choice and join society. Only then will you enjoy its fruits
and remove yerself from the ranks of the Marginal Man.
Dale
2013-08-15 17:31:47 UTC
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Post by THE COLONEL
Make the right choice and join society. Only then will you enjoy its
fruits and remove yerself from the ranks of the Marginal Man.
I included that, look at choice 4 in my original post

4) suck it up, GO THERE and be a joker, and let the establishment learn
their lesson, eventually they will corrupt even what "they" like
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Dale
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